Friday, September 25th, 2009

Is Civil War in the United States Inevitable?

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luomoprincipale asked:


The implementation of the REAL ID ACT( federal id system containing radio frequency identification chips similar to the new passport system) and the increased accessibility to information will cause outrage in this country.

After failing to pass in the house of reps. in early 2005, the REAL ID ACT bill was tacked onto the war on terror and tsunami relief legistlation. Because 100% of private income tax goes towards paying off our national debt of the federal reserve banking system, $82 Billion in subsidized taxation will be re-allocated in the form of $23.1 Billion over 10 years to pay for uncle sam’s big weapon.

In 2009, if you live or work in the USA, you’ll need this federally approved id card to travel by plane, boat, drive a car, open an account, collect social security, or benefit from any government service.

The authoritarian implications for this monstrous social reformation must be in the public scope now! Once people become aware of this reality, will they revolt?

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13 Responses to “Is Civil War in the United States Inevitable?”

wartz Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 6:32 am

You are overreacting.

joshtheG Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 10:19 am

that is pretty *** man. i **** this big brother sh1t. just let me live my life bro

mscherpenberg Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:53 am

A concern, yes. To say that revolt is inevitable is a bit much. I think there will be many debates and legal obstacles before such an event were to take place.

rudens Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

they will not revolt, they will be told its good for them to be safe , a little fear will handle any problems

Brian E Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 3:30 am

No, because people will be told that it is for their protection. It will likely be implemented in the wake of another event that will make people beg the government to make them safe at any cost. It could cause massive civil disobedience, but revolt is unlikely in any case with the possible exception of as a defensive action in response to an all out war being declared on dissenters.

Sageandscholar Says:
October 7th, 2009 at 8:17 am

Ok – let’s go through the inaccuracies here.
First the REAL ID ACT does not do anything you state. It merely enforces a national standard on drivers licenses and voluntary non drivers license IDs already issued by states.
The Federal Reserve system does not create debt. Congressional deficit spending does. There were deficits and debt before the Fed existed.
The cost of servicing this debt may indeed be greater than personal income tax reciepts (do you have a source for this) but at present nothing is going to “paying off our national debt” – in fact the national debt is growing.
The deadline for compliance with the REAL ID ACT is 12/31/2009 so even if we pretend for a second that it did change what ID would be required for much of what you describe it would not affect us in 2009.
Currently you have to produce photo ID to do all of those things anyway – this act will not change that.

There are enough real problems in the country without you inventing other fictional ones.

lttlehrse55 Says:
October 8th, 2009 at 4:42 am

If war erupts here, it will be between those who are entitled to be here, and those who’ve barged in, so calm down, Josephine.

ID cards are a good idea, and perhaps you’re suffering from delusions of grandeur if you think you’re important enough for the government to take any interest in you.

Ford Prefect Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 3:54 am

I bet Fox will cover it

commanderbuck383 Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

Big Brother a worry to you ?

We have a plan….

And I bet we get more than 11 states to secede THIS time !
You damnyankees will finally see the light !

YEEEEHAW !!!

Jeff Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

Is a US Civil War inevitable? NO. It already happened once, and the results will stop us from doing it again. We learned from our mistake in that area.

funkyd00dy Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:12 am

debates? probably. revolt? maybe. civil war? highly unlikely. in order for that to successfully come about, a force large enough & powerful enough to take on the national guard, fbi, nsa, etc. would have to exist. and, if one did exist, it would’ve been on & off the radar, and then “disbanded” [putting it mildly] already. hey, like a famous president once said, the price of peace is eternal vigilance. if the government doesn’t act to make this country safer, people talk sh*t. when they do act, people still talk sh*t. if they don’t like it here, they can get the f–k out. there’s a 193 other countries they can move to.

HotDockett Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:49 am

No, they won’t. It’s all in the name of safety and fighting terror right? Most people will not be negatively affected by this change, and those that will be are considered a small price to pay for the greater security of the hive, I meant Nation…

If things ever get as bad as you are concerned about, a public revolt will be all but useless. Besides, things are basically like that now. Try flying without PROPER Id, get caught driving or boating without a license, ever try to open a checking or savings account with no ID? You can’t even talk with the SSA without a Social Security Card and valid ID to start your claim. Don’t even get me started on Government services, like say VOTING.

So, what’s the difference between that and an RF ID? Not much… So, where’s the revolt? Why aren’t people going without just to stick their middle finger up at “The Man”? The time of your concern is now. What do you do? How is your life any different now, than it was before this realization? If you are on the list of people “The Man” doesn’t like, you already know it by now and most normal people could care less. They are just glad it’s not them. Aren’t you glad it’s not you? I’m glad it’s not you too…

paultewing Says:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:14 am

Read this in the Bible, Revelation, chapter 13, verses 16 and 17. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

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